Wire info with wire number

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#1 Wire info with wire number

Would there be a way to efficiently show wire numbre above the wire info (see first screenshot) ? It's not a big thing but it's kind of a basic thing.

Or could we just make single wires that automatically display color and size under the number ? This would avoid having to put wire info one by one everywhere on the schematics.

Curently I see that when I add a wire info, the wire get split in two segment and the wire number automatically get in an aesthetic place (see second screenshot). I don't understand what's the purpose of this.

 

Thanks

Yes

Thanks for posting on the forum.

Or could we just make single wires that automatically display color and size under the number ? This would avoid having to put wire info one by one everywhere on the schematics.
Yes, exactly this can be done, but before we give you instructions we need to confirm if you're using the net properties or the single wire properties.

When you set the number, color and wire size, do you use this window:

or this window?:

I'm using single wire

I'm using single wire properties.

In fact I wasn't aware about net properties. Where can I find this window (the first) ?

I would like to explore this.

Please let us know if this helps.

I'm using single wire properties.
Noted. That is the more flexible route to go, as you can assign different wire properties to each wire on a net if you need to.
That said, looking at your second screenshot, we believe the 09 number comes from the net, not the single wire, you may want to verify that.

Here is how to add the wire number, size and color (all from the Single Wire properties) to the connection as you wish:

  1. Select one of those connection on the schematics that already has the wire number, size and color defined
  2. Go to the Connection Tools tab and select Set connection text properties
  3. Select the Value cell, go to the Home tab and select Process property queries
  4. Copy/paste the following in the Value cell (replacing what is there currently):
    <r:Parent.GetNetBranch.DisplayedLabel>
    <r:Parent.GetNetBranch.Color>-<r:Parent.GetNetBranch.WireSize>
  5. Close the window
  6. At this point, you should see something like this:
  7. If that's what you want, select the connection, go to the Home tab and Save. This will update that connection symbol in the symbol library
  8. To update all those connections in your project, close and re-open the project

In fact I wasn't aware about net properties. Where can I find this window (the first) ?
If you double-click on the connection, you will reach the net properties.

Please let us know if this helps.

Almost it !

Almost it !

I'm not sure if I provided the good information about net or single wire. I think I misunderstood it. For entering the color/number and size, I use neither of the option you said above. I use the Wire List.

I'll send you a screenshot of the result I've got after doing what you provided above. Don't hesitate to ask if you need more information or to corect me if I'm nothing working the good way with wires.

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Ah, OK

Thanks for the information.

In that case, this is the query you need (from step 4 in our previous reply):

<r:Parent.NetID>
<r:Parent.GetNetBranch.Number/Color>-<r:Parent.GetNetBranch.WireSize>

Then continue with steps 5-8.

Side note: you don't have to manually enter the information in the wire list each time for each wire. You can enter the information for one wire, then save that wire to catalogue.
Then, you can select multiple wires (in the wire list or directly on the schematics) and use Assign from Catalogue to assign a part number (with the correct color and wire size) to them.

Please let us know if this helps.

Is there a way to move it so

Is there a way to move it so the wire don't cross the information ?

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Change the Text offset property to 0.

Select the connection, go to the Connections Tools tab and select Explore connection properties.
Change the Text offset property to 0.

Please let us know if this helps.

Perfect, that's what I was

Perfect, that's what I was looking for !

Thanks again !

You're welcome

Thanks for letting us know that helped.

Is there a way to manage

Is there a way to manage connections so it fits the oriented connections (T-node) ? I can do it with terminal strips but I don't find how to manage it for connexions not related to terminals.

The best would be to manage it directly with the T-nodes. Exactly as it's shown in this tutorial : https://my.skycad.ca/forums/all-tutorials/wire-lists-single-wires

 

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For my display problem, a

For my display problem, a query that don't show more than one wire number and information would be fine if it's possible.

Please try Renumber Wires

Once you've oriented your connections, you need to run Renumber Wires to let SkyCAD process that.

Please try Renumber Wires and let us know the result.

It's not working with

It's not working with terminals when there's more than 2 connections on it.

You will see in the screenshot bellow that the wires W34 and W35 are not listed as connected to TB-14 (in the terminal strip layout and in the wire list). And the wire 37 is on the wrong side of the terminal strip.

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Please try this

You will see in the screenshot bellow that the wires W34 and W35 are not listed as connected to TB-14 (in the terminal strip layout and in the wire list).
You need to specify the connectivity in the terminal strip list view, that the one side of TB-14 is connected to CB0218 and connected to R0218 at the same time. The same goes for the other side of the terminal.

To do this, open the terminal strip list view, and use the Connect button as you normally would.
Then, when selecting which components that terminal connects to, hold the CTRL key to select multiple components.

Once you've done, run Renumber Wires again and check your wire list.

Please let us know if that helps.

And the wire 37 is on the wrong side of the terminal strip.
What do you mean by this?

I'm aware I can do this but

I'm aware I can do this but it's kind of a big deal to all do it manually. It's a double management for the same thing. I manage it with the oriented connections in the schematics and then I have to manage it again in the terminal strip list view. It can generate mistakes too if I make it one way in the schematic and another way in the Terminal strip list view. Why does the oriented connections work for components but not with terminals ?

What do you mean by this?

I mean that, on the schematic, the wire gets on the external side of the terminal but it connect to the interior side of the terminal strip layout. And if I want to manage it in the Terminal strip list view, I can't get it the represent it. I can only connect W35 and W37 on one side, and W34 and W36 on the other. It should be W37 and W36 together on the external side and W34 and W35 together on the internal side.

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Filter by locations

I'm aware I can do this but it's kind of a big deal to all do it manually. It's a double management for the same thing. I manage it with the oriented connections in the schematics and then I have to manage it again in the terminal strip list view. It can generate mistakes too if I make it one way in the schematic and another way in the Terminal strip list view. Why does the oriented connections work for components but not with terminals ?
Single wires is a relatively new feature. We know that its uses with terminals can be improved and we have plans to improve that in a way that is intuitive and reliable with all license levels (the standard license has no single wire functionality).
Until we're able to allow terminals to consider single wires, and not just nets (which is what it does now), you will have to use the Connect feature in the terminal strip tools as needed.

I mean that, on the schematic, the wire gets on the external side of the terminal but it connect to the interior side of the terminal strip layout. And if I want to manage it in the Terminal strip list view, I can't get it the represent it. I can only connect W35 and W37 on one side, and W34 and W36 on the other. It should be W37 and W36 together on the external side and W34 and W35 together on the internal side.
Thanks for explaining that. The exterior side and interior side properties of the terminal refer to what location the connected components (or terminals in this case) are assigned to.
In your case, TB-28 is considered as "interior" because TB-28 and TB-14 are both located in the same location; i.e. Control Panel - Backplate.

Turning off Filter by locations will allow you to connect everything as you wish.
This forum thread explains more about that.

Please let us know if this helps.

Fine ! I'm glad to know you

Fine ! I'm glad to know you are looking to make it work this way ! I'll do it manually until then.

Filter by locations :

Perfect I'll try this ! Thanks for all your help

You're welcome

Thanks for letting us know this is good for now.